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Old 09-21-2008, 10:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question A good debate: Is Cal Ripken Jr overrated? Some think so

I hear a good debate a few weeks ago on sports talk radio. A lot of people say Jeter is overrated, but could Ripken actually be the most overrated?

SEASONTEAMGABRH2B3BHRRBIBBSOSBCSAVGOBPSLGOPS
1981Bal23391500001800.128.150.128.278
1982Bal160598901583252893469533.264.317.475.792
1983Bal16266312121147227102589704.318.371.517.888
1984Bal1626411031953772786718921.304.374.510.884
1985Bal16164211618132526110676823.282.347.469.816
1986Bal162627981773512581706042.282.355.461.816
1987Bal162624971572832798817735.252.333.436.769
1988Bal1615758715225123811026922.264.372.431.803
1989Bal162646801663002193577232.257.317.401.718
1990Bal161600781502842184826631.250.341.415.756
1991Bal1626509921046534114534661.323.374.566.940
1992Bal162637731602911472645043.251.323.366.689
1993Bal162641871652632490655814.257.329.420.749
1994Bal112444711401931375324110.315.364.459.823
1995Bal144550711443321788525901.262.324.422.746
1996Bal1636409417840126102597812.278.341.466.807
1997Bal162615791663001784567310.270.331.402.733
1998Bal161601651632711461516802.271.331.389.720
1999Bal86332511132701857133101.340.368.584.952
2000Bal8330943791601556233700.256.310.453.763
2001Bal128477431141601468266302.239.276.361.637
Total--30011155116473184603444311695112913053639.276.340.447.787
Seasonal Averages (per 162 games played)
YEARSGABRH2B3BHRRBIBBSOSBCSAVGOBPSLGOPS
18.52162624891723322391617022.276.340.447.787


He did have over 3000 hits, and over 400hrs. He did play in the most consecutive games and played 20 seasons. What is everyones take on this? I dont think he was a great player like some say. He was an average hitter by todays standards. He was exceptional in the field during his prime as well. I think im on the fence on hom being overrated
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Old 09-27-2008, 04:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: A good debate: Is Cal Ripken Jr overrated? Some think so

I think Cal was a pretty good player. Idk if he was overrated or not, but he played great defense and always came to work. I dont think I can go right out and say he was overrated.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: A good debate: Is Cal Ripken Jr overrated? Some think so

Good, consistent player, but terribly overrated.
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Old 10-17-2008, 07:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: A good debate: Is Cal Ripken Jr overrated? Some think so

He was a mediocre player at the plate who excelled in the field and showed up to the stadium every night. He's not one of the top 10 players ever or anything like that, but if I was putting together a team of 25 players, he would more than likely make my roster. That's not even saying that he was one of the top 25 players ever to play, hell, not even one of the 25 best position players ever, but there is something to say about a guy who plays year after year, is extremely consistent and you know isn't going to make an excuse about why he can't make it out onto the field today. He's playing.

PS. I think the recently passed steroid era and the diluting of pitching because of expansion also play a factor in people not seeing his batting as good as it possibly was. The last 15 or so years of baseball have really changed the way that we look at players at the plate, whether that be for the better or for worse.

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Old 10-18-2008, 10:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: A good debate: Is Cal Ripken Jr overrated? Some think so

I'm getting sick of all his endorsements.
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Default Re: A good debate: Is Cal Ripken Jr overrated? Some think so

His hitting stats won't jump out at you, but his fielding was good and he was Mr. Reliable. 3000 hits, over 400 HR's in 20 seasons, not overrated but very consistant. I think he deserves the attention.
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Old 10-20-2008, 02:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm getting sick of all his endorsements.
Well unfortunately for you he is one of the most easily liked and well known faces in baseball and he was credited in large part for bringing back baseball after the strike and many fans had abandoned the game.

That and the fact that the 2 other people credited with bringing back the game and deeply rooting in the center of the steroid era and their names and stats have been completely tarnished.
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That and the fact that the 2 other people credited with bringing back the game and deeply rooting in the center of the steroid era and their names and stats have been completely tarnished.
Is anything more true than that..... I think not.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Good, consistent player, but terribly overrated.

True but it might be that the standards he played by during the times he played helped to raise the bar for the players we have now. I am sure a good but of the hype is that he was one so many took too almost instantly....
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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True but it might be that the standards he played by during the times he played helped to raise the bar for the players we have now.

Thats also true. By todays standards, Ozzie Smith was also overrated.
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