Mark Prior

[Brandon]

Already done for '07, I really want to seem go through a season healthy but it's ridiculous as he hasn't played a full season in 3 years. All because Baker pushed him too hard and caused all the shoulder problems to begin with. :rolleyes:

[integra97zeke]

It is about time he just gave up.

[egcoupe94]

sounds like Mike Hampton

[Jerome]

most people attribute mark prior's injuries to dusty baker overworking prior when he came into the league. this is a common misconception perpetuated by the media. orel hershiser stated it best, attributing mark prior's injuries to weak connective tissue. his string of injuries back up this assessment, and the gradual "wearing down" of this tissue had little to do with his work load, as a pitcher without this weak tissue would have been able to sustain the workload. proof of this is evident by the AC sprain prior previously sustained, an injury which uncommonly occurs in pitchers (i suffered the same injury multiple times, sustained the injuries in my non-pitching shoulder, as a result of overextending my right arm while swinging left-handed).

[integra97zeke]

I struggled with that too in my left shoulder when I pitched. Then I messed up my rotator cuff and that quickly ended baseball for me :(. Now my left shoulder is all fucked up.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by integra97zeke

I struggled with that too in my left shoulder when I pitched. Then I messed up my rotator cuff and that quickly ended baseball for me :(. Now my left shoulder is all fucked up.

you can verify this, as it likely wasn't your workload which caused your injuries, but genetics.

[egcoupe94]

you know one thing I have never understood. In football, the sport I played the most(played baseball until my sophomore year), we had a chance for unjury on every play. In my years of playing, I have been injured one time, and did not miss a single game. I just got a little fluid on my knee in a scrimage and had it drained the next day. why do baseball players get injured more than football players? I never sat out a play if a tweaked a hammy or pulled an oblique muscle. I was on the line where who knows what could have happened and it just seems baseball players get hurt alot more than us football players

[integra97zeke]

Pitchers get hurt all the time because the mechanics and motions of pitching is so unnatural. These motions put such a strain on all different types of muscles in the back, shoulders, legs, arms etc...

I don't know why so many baseball players (other than pitchers) get hurt. Its crazy.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by integra97zeke

Pitchers get hurt all the time because the mechanics and motions of pitching is so unnatural. These motions put such a strain on all different types of muscles in the back, shoulders, legs, arms etc...

I don't know why so many baseball players (other than pitchers) get hurt. Its crazy.

you're pretty much dead on with respect to your comments on pitchers. our natural throwing motion is underhand, so pretty much everything you do as a pitcher (from your release to the jerk, to wrist action to put spin on the ball) is all unnatural and puts starin on the arm.

as for other injuries, obliques are strained by pitchers through gyration, as are hitters. the rotation from position, to the swing and follow through, can put strain on the oblique muscles. hamstring and groin injuries are common in all physical activity, and not just baseball.

as for football injuries, the member previous must have been lucky, because two weeks into the season everybody is battling one injury or another. as an option quarterback in high school, i suffered and dealt with injuries every season. i've broken 8 fingers (four in football, four in basketball), suffered three stress fractures (one from basketball, two in football), suffered a torn meniscus in left knee, and a broken collarbone (twice), among other minor ones. those are all just from football throughout my life. as donovan mcnabb said, everybody plays hurt. as the year rolls along, the line for cortisone injections gets longer. check in injured list every single week; every player on the active roster will be on it at least one week during the season.

[egcoupe94]

Originally Posted by thahuhstunna

you're pretty much dead on with respect to your comments on pitchers. our natural throwing motion is underhand, so pretty much everything you do as a pitcher (from your release to the jerk, to wrist action to put spin on the ball) is all unnatural and puts starin on the arm.

as for other injuries, obliques are strained by pitchers through gyration, as are hitters. the rotation from position, to the swing and follow through, can put strain on the oblique muscles. hamstring and groin injuries are common in all physical activity, and not just baseball.

as for football injuries, the member previous must have been lucky, because two weeks into the season everybody is battling one injury or another. as an option quarterback in high school, i suffered and dealt with injuries every season. i've broken 8 fingers (four in football, four in basketball), suffered three stress fractures (one from basketball, two in football), suffered a torn meniscus in left knee, and a broken collarbone (twice), among other minor ones. those are all just from football throughout my life. as donovan mcnabb said, everybody plays hurt. as the year rolls along, the line for cortisone injections gets longer. check in injured list every single week; every player on the active roster will be on it at least one week during the season.

I've been hurt before. I fell in a game and had my hame stepped on, it was twice the size it should be and black and blue. Don't know if I broke anything. I taped it up and continued playing. Ive rolled ankles, bruised this, bruised that. Had my bell rung, but not real, serious injury. Our coaches used to say, if your hurt, you can push through it and continue playing, if youre injured, then you need to go see the trainer.

[Chubz]

weak connecting tissue is a big physical problem. I know people that blew out shoulders etc,,, just by doing warmup sets at the gym. Luckily for me. my genetics are pretty solid.

[Chubz]

here is an example of good genetics (muscular wise) feel for the head of your bicep, if tendon and bicep start near your forearm, you have pretty much all the potential for growth right there, and short solid movement for your connecting tissue. Also feel around your shoulder area, if you have alot of muscle around that area, chances are your connecting tissue is fine. Its the athletes that can throw hard with a somewhat lanky build that run into these problems

[egcoupe94]

Originally Posted by Chubz

here is an example of good genetics (muscular wise) feel for the head of your bicep, if tendon and bicep start near your forearm, you have pretty much all the potential for growth right there, and short solid movement for your connecting tissue. Also feel around your shoulder area, if you have alot of muscle around that area, chances are your connecting tissue is fine. Its the athletes that can throw hard with a somewhat lanky build that run into these problems

what if you are just nothing but a ball of fat? like me, lol...

nah, I can feel my tendon connecting my bicep, always seemed pretty strong. Ive pulled muscles and everything, but Ive just never understood why alot of bball players get hurt. Not the pitchers, they have one of the toughest jobs.